Ray Bianchi interviewed me a couple of years ago for chicagopostmodernpoetry.com — then never published the interview and hasn’t responded to several “what’s up” emails, so I’m taking the initiative to include it here. I mean, why waste it? Even if very little of it is true anymore…
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Where were you Born and what was your Formation?
I was born in Iowa City, IA, at University Hospital. I am trying to think of what you mean by formation. Maybe it’s an open-ended question, in which case I’d like to point out that I come from a family of butchers and grain dealers. My great uncle, Paul Franzenburg, former treasurer for the State of Iowa, spent part of his career as a traveling salesman and was friends with Meredith Willson. There’s a credible rumor that he was the Music Man. My grandmother Jean Belz, Paul’s sister, and her husband Max, started a small high school in eastern Iowa which has become the family legacy. They had eight kids who all had kids, and now many of them have kids, and so there seem to be hundreds of Belzes here and there. Grandpa Max had a print shop, so there’s some ink in our blood too. My mom’s family is English/Irish from Baltimore and connected with the military there. My mother is incredibly beautiful and a crossword puzzle freak. She’d be an avid reader, too, if it weren’t for the fact that she has terrible ADD like her only son. Dad is a lawyer, one of the proud products of the University of Iowa Law School. Which brings us full circle: despite having lived in St. Louis most of my life, I am Hawkeye at heart.
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What are your Poetic Influences?
The other day I was trying to write a good poem, as is my wont, and I couldn’t come up with anything so I Googled “good poem” and the first result was a page of quotes answering the question, “What makes a good poem?” I thought, perhaps naively, a ha! This ought to help. The first quote was from a fellow named Walter Mayes: “A poem is a communication from one soul to another that makes one or both hearts sing.” I pondered this for some time. So, I thought, a poem might just make the writer’s heart sing? I’d always written with the intent of including the reader, but Walter Mayes inspired me to think only of my own heart. As a result, I wrote a poem called “A Box of It”–my finest and least popular work to date. It is quite long and pleases me greatly.
Then last night I was looking at a coffee table book called Writers at Home. If you do not have it, you must get it. It has hundreds of current photos of the houses of great American writers, together with old pictures of them and their families in the homes, and short biographical narratives. The best house is Emerson’s. He bought it in 1828 from a fellow named J. J. Coolidge; it was so large and stately that it had become known as “Coolidge Castle.”
However, what interested me most about this entry in Writers at Home was a quote from Emerson in which he describes the ideal American: “[let him] add observation to observation, patient of neglect, patient of reproach; and bide his own time,–happy enough if he can satisfy himself alone… He then learns, that in going down into the secrets of his own mind, he has descended into the secrets of all minds.” I thought, hey! Walter Mayes! I also pictured Emerson wandering about his castle learning to be king of his own mind, And later writing Nature, in which he asks the question, “Why should not we have a poetry of insight and not of tradition, and a religion by revelation to us, and not the history of theirs?”
That said, some of my favorite writers are Wallace Stevens, Joseph Mitchell, Samuel Beckett, Cesar Vallejo, Robert Frost, Emily Dickinson, Thomas Hardy, John Donne, George Herbert, Voltaire, Jonathan Swift, Geoffrey Chaucer, and the Pearl poet. I cut my teeth on T. S. Eliot and in the mid nineties turned all my attention to John Ashbery.
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When did you realize you were a poet?
I think it was 1996 or 1997. I had written poetry pretty regularly for ten years, had completed the master’s degree in Creative Writing at NYU, and had begun to publish. My first publications were in Exquisite Corpse and Mudfish. I don’t know what the real catalyst was, but I remember thinking that if I’m pouring all this work into writing poetry it would be a shame not to be a poet.
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What type of class has proven most useful for your development as a poet/writer?
I think it was a Craft of Poetry class I took from Allen Ginsberg in 1994. He read from the Kalevala for days on end, it seemed. I learned from him that poetry can be democratic. I needed to be weaned from Old Possum’s teat, I suppose. Ginsberg weaned me. He also read us a lot of John Wieners poems, come to think of it. After that I got into Ashbery.
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Favorite Team or Sport?
The St. Louis Cardinals! Back to back 100-win seasons! The sea of red! Sorry, Cubs fans! (By the way, I am trying to scalp four field-level seats for the Cubs/Cards game on Friday, June 2. If anyone wants to come down and see the new stadium, and has some serious coin, they should email me.)
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Food?
I am ashamed to admit that I do not have a favorite food. I am an omnivore. I do enjoy expensive scotch.
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Vacation Spot?
Nor am I big into vacations. I like to travel, which I think is different. My family does go to the beach in North Carolina occasionally. We’re going there in May.
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Swear Word?
“Horse pucky.” This occurs in Mulholland Drive.
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Are you working on a book?
I’m working on my dissertation, which looks at the influence of popular comedy on Modernist poetry, and I have a new MS of poems that I haven’t sent anywhere yet. I plan to send it out soon.
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How do you write a poem?
I sit for awhile and think about what I most want to say. A poem, for me, begins in speech. I sort of talk to myself for awhile until I hear something that sounds worth investigating more fully. Most of my poems start with a kind of key sentence or observation. In the past year or two I’ve taken to inverting my initial thought and exploring that instead. A lot of my poetry involves systematic inversion, reversal, mirroring, etc. I try to stand to the side and allow the train of thought go by on its own. My role as a poet is to watch it go by, to describe its coming and going. I suppose writing a poem, for me, means divvying up my consciousness into multiple consciousnesses: one who’s thinking, one who’s observing, one who can’t believe what he’s hearing, and one who feels really ashamed even to be alive. Lately I’ve introduced a new consciousness, or at least given it more prominence (it was always there): One who’s in love.
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Is poetry a synthetic or organic process for you?
It is unquestionably both.
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Where do you write? Is ambience important for you?
I write in my study or in a carrel or cubicle somewhere. Ambience is not important, but silence is, as is a keyboard: I have trouble writing with a pen or pencil. I get cramps.
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